Episode 5: Vision of the New Jerusalem - Podcast By Archbishop Mark Coleridge

December 02, 2024 00:24:50
Episode 5: Vision of the New Jerusalem - Podcast By Archbishop Mark Coleridge
Archdiocese of Brisbane
Episode 5: Vision of the New Jerusalem - Podcast By Archbishop Mark Coleridge

Dec 02 2024 | 00:24:50

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Join Archbishop Mark Coleridge for Episode 5 of "The Navel of the Earth: Jerusalem in Time, Theology, and Imagination." This episode looks at the concept of the New Jerusalem, as described in Revelation, which represents a divine vision where God dwells among humanity, eliminating suffering and death. This vision reassures believers that despite present challenges, they are moving towards a restored paradise, filled with joy and healing for all nations.

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1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,840 Jerusalem, previously referred to as the City of David, 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:08,360 was in some ways not a city as we would see it today. 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:12,240 It was more like a fortress in the Judean Hills. 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,720 Jerusalem, with its rises and falls over time, 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:21,320 presents us with an opportunity to reflect on its story and its history. 6 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:28,400 We hope you enjoy The Navel of the Earth: Jerusalem in time, theology and imagination. 7 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:34,360 In these podcasts focusing upon Jerusalem, 8 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:38,640 we have looked at Jerusalem in time. 9 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,080 The city, with its extraordinary history. 10 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:47,080 Seventeen times destroyed, and eighteen times rebuilt. 11 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:51,480 We've also looked at Jerusalem, understood as the soul 12 00:00:51,480 --> 00:00:54,800 of the individual believer. 13 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:59,640 And then Jerusalem as the Church, 14 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:04,000 in that Christian understanding. 15 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:05,200 In this podcast, 16 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:11,640 I want to turn to Jerusalem as the end. 17 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,320 And the word sometimes that is used is, 18 00:01:14,320 --> 00:01:18,160 Jerusalem understood eschatologically. 19 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,920 In other words, the New Jerusalem, 20 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,720 as the New Testament puts it. 21 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,520 Because Jerusalem becomes 22 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:31,600 the great goal towards which human history is moving, 23 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,000 according to Scripture. 24 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,760 So, it is the future. 25 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,520 It is the end of things. 26 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,280 And in Christian understanding too, 27 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,640 it's another way of understanding Paradise, 28 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:48,840 or what we have come in history, in English at least, to call heaven. 29 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,280 The fullness of life. 30 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:56,120 Which is found in God and into which God wants to draw us. 31 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,920 Jerusalem has become 32 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:05,440 the locus, the place, of that fullness of life. 33 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:10,040 This sense of Jerusalem as the end 34 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,520 really arises out of an experience 35 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:16,520 of historical disappointment, 36 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,720 even defeat. 37 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,160 Because the roots of what we find 38 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:26,440 spectacularly in the book of Revelation in the New Testament, as we shall see, 39 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,440 are found deep in the Old Testament, 40 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:33,480 particularly in the prophets. 41 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:41,600 Because the fact that they were dealing with was the destruction of Jerusalem, 42 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,920 the catastrophe. 43 00:02:43,920 --> 00:02:49,120 The destruction of the Babylonian exile that came in 587 BC. 44 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:56,200 But that had, as we have seen, a considerable pre-history. 45 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,280 So, given that Jerusalem 46 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:02,560 in place and in time, in history, 47 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,040 had been destroyed, 48 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:11,280 what happened to all those hopes and beliefs that attached to Jerusalem 49 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:17,200 as the place where God had chosen to pitch His tent on earth, 50 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:22,120 the place where the glory of God dwelt? 51 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,080 Had that hope, 52 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:28,440 had that belief simply collapsed or evaporated? 53 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:33,680 Or could it be in some ways reshaped, reconfigured, 54 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:38,760 so that we could hold on to the hope and retain the belief? 55 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:43,520 The reconfiguration is what actually happens in the Bible. 56 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,200 And it becomes a vision, 57 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,800 not of the Jerusalem destroyed in history, 58 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:55,760 but a new Jerusalem that will be indestructible, inviolable, 59 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,920 and where God will make a home among human beings 60 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:00,880 once and for all, 61 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,640 and then draw all human beings 62 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:08,560 into that place which is the fullness of life. 63 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,520 So out of the experience of catastrophe and historical disappointment, 64 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:18,280 what is borne is a kind of eschatological hope and belief 65 00:04:18,280 --> 00:04:22,480 that we are moving away from the experience of catastrophe 66 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:26,480 and human and historical disappointment, 67 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,400 towards a fullness of life 68 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:35,320 that will be found in a Jerusalem which is indestructible, 69 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:42,720 beyond the ravages of human violence and time. 70 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:48,320 One of the great voices, prophetic voices of the exile, the Babylonian exile, 71 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,240 was the prophet Ezekiel. 72 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,560 And it's in Ezekiel that we find the roots 73 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:59,520 of this kind of vision of a new Jerusalem. 74 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:05,600 The last eight chapters of the Book of Ezekiel, chapters 40 to 48, 75 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:09,480 are an extraordinary and extraordinarily detailed vision. 76 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,920 Not so much of Jerusalem, but the temple. 77 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,280 But you've got to keep in mind with Jerusalem 78 00:05:14,280 --> 00:05:17,720 that the city and the temple are inseparable. 79 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,160 To speak of the city is to speak of the temple. 80 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,680 To speak of the temple is to speak of the city. 81 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:27,400 And this is because the temple was the place where the glory of God dwelled. 82 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,600 And that's what gave and gives 83 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:36,240 Jerusalem its very peculiar power and resonance. 84 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,160 So, in the midst of all the devastation, 85 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,360 and that's important to keep in mind with Ezekiel. 86 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:47,960 The city is destroyed, its leaders are taken off to Babylon. 87 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,360 They're transported 88 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,600 in the midst of all of this devastation. 89 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,360 And it's huge, huge disappointment. 90 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:00,080 And the questions it puts to hope and faith. 91 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,040 Ezekiel has this vision 92 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,440 of a new temple 93 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,400 and a new city. 94 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:12,160 And the very last line of this great vision, 95 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:17,280 chapters 40 to 48 is this, 96 00:06:17,280 --> 00:06:20,760 and the name of the city henceforth 97 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:25,680 shall be, the Lord is there. 98 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:29,080 Now this is the key, the presence of God, the glory. 99 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:34,280 Because Ezekiel at the time of the exile has this vision, extraordinary vision, 100 00:06:34,280 --> 00:06:40,000 which he recounts of the glory of God, leaving the temple in Jerusalem 101 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,680 and going up and stopping on the Mount of Olives, 102 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,280 overlooking the city, and then leaving. 103 00:06:47,280 --> 00:06:49,600 So, the departure of the glory 104 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,040 and the vision now in the midst of all this devastation, 105 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,440 is the vision of the glory returned. 106 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,280 So, the name of the city 107 00:06:59,280 --> 00:07:03,880 henceforth shall be, the Lord is there. 108 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:09,640 And it's there that you find the roots of this vision of a new Jerusalem. 109 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:15,320 Now, another prophetic voice 110 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,960 that speaks of the New Jerusalem is the prophet Isaiah. 111 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,760 In fact, it's the prophet we know as Second Isaiah. 112 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:27,240 Keep in mind that with the prophet Isaiah in the scroll of the prophet Isaiah, 113 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,160 there are three different voices. 114 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,480 They are related, and yet they are quite distinct, 115 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:36,720 and they come from different moments of ancient Israel's history. 116 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:41,600 First Isaiah is the late eighth century prophet. 117 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:46,880 So, in about 715 BC, based in Jerusalem. 118 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:52,560 And his prophetic oracles are contained in chapters 1 to 39. 119 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:57,680 Second Isaiah is chapters 40 to 55. 120 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,320 He's a different kind of poetic voice. 121 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,600 And he is a voice that comes with the return 122 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,560 from exile fifty years after the Babylonian exile. 123 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,320 So we are at about 537 BC, 124 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:17,240 so centuries later than First Isaiah, but related 125 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:22,040 to a tradition of prophetic preaching that looks back to Isaiah of Jerusalem 126 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,960 in about 715. 127 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:31,080 So, Second Isaiah is 40 to 55, and then Third Isaiah, again, 128 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:36,080 a different kind of voice, but related in terms of theology, 129 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:40,440 is from chapters 56 to 66. 130 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:44,400 And he is a prophet of the period of the return from exile. 131 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:48,720 So, after they have returned to Jerusalem. 132 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,240 So, First Isaiah, 133 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,000 late eighth century. 134 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:59,200 Second Isaiah, is the middle of the sixth century BC. 135 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,640 And then Third Isaiah, a later period again, 136 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:07,160 once they have returned from Babylon to Jerusalem. 137 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:11,280 So, the voice we're about to listen to is the voice of Second Isaiah. 138 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:16,240 So, he's at the time of the return from the Babylonian exile. 139 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,760 Which was a time of new hope, certainly. 140 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,200 Hope to rebuild Jerusalem. 141 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,560 But a time of enormous challenge. 142 00:09:24,560 --> 00:09:29,880 Because, in fact, when they return, when the exiles return to Jerusalem, 143 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,920 they find a city that is in complete and utter ruin. 144 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:39,200 So, the challenge of rebuilding the city and rebuilding the temple 145 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,640 was extraordinarily daunting. 146 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,520 And at times, Spirit's flag. 147 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:48,440 So, the prophets at about this time had to say, now come on. 148 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:52,600 The task is enormous, but up and at it. 149 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,600 So, Second Isaiah, as they are 150 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,600 returning from Babylon to Jerusalem, 151 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:04,880 says this, 152 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,280 O afflicted one storm tossed and not comforted. 153 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,520 That's what Jerusalem was. 154 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:15,680 Behold, I will set your stones in antimony. 155 00:10:15,680 --> 00:10:20,280 And lay your foundations with sapphires. 156 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:24,360 I will make your pinnacles of agate, your gates of carbuncles, 157 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,760 and all your wall of precious stones. 158 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,760 So, it's a vision of glory, of splendour, 159 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:34,680 at a time when there wasn't much glory and splendour at all. 160 00:10:34,680 --> 00:10:36,840 He goes on, 161 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:40,520 all your children shall be taught by the Lord. 162 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,440 And great shall be the prosperity of your children. 163 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,280 This was not the case at the time. 164 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,840 In righteousness you shall be established. 165 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,480 You shall be far from oppression, for you shall not fear, 166 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:57,720 and from terror, for it shall not come near you. 167 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,400 And so, on it goes. 168 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:04,680 So, this is a more mature vision of a new Jerusalem 169 00:11:04,680 --> 00:11:08,200 and a new temple at a time 170 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,800 when it was anything but that. 171 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:15,560 In a time when spirits were low, the vision is high. 172 00:11:15,560 --> 00:11:18,040 So here again, you find the roots of 173 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:23,520 the vision of the New Jerusalem that will come to full flower in the New Testament. 174 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:28,080 A still later prophetic voice is the last 175 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:33,280 of the prophets we hear in the Old Testament, the prophet Zechariah. 176 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,480 Now, he is of a later period, again, 177 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:40,920 when they're trying to rebuild the city and rebuild the temple. 178 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:45,760 And he's raised up as a prophetic voice of encouragement. 179 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:49,920 To encourage the people to keep pursuing a task 180 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,040 that seemed overwhelming. 181 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:54,880 And the prophet Zechariah says this, 182 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:58,240 Jerusalem shall be inhabited as villages without walls, 183 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:02,520 because of the multitude of people and cattle in it. 184 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,560 And that wasn't the way Jerusalem was at the time. 185 00:12:05,560 --> 00:12:08,400 It was a small population, 186 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,840 that was part of their problem. 187 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:13,880 For I will, so the prophet goes on, 188 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:18,560 for I will be to her a wall of fire round about, says the Lord. 189 00:12:18,560 --> 00:12:22,840 And I will be the glory within her. 190 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,240 Here again, the key is the presence of God, 191 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,240 who pitches a tent among us 192 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:33,160 in this city, high in the Judean mountains. 193 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:37,800 So, I will be the glory within her. 194 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:42,120 And that's the key to understanding Jerusalem at many different levels. 195 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,840 It always was, and it still is. 196 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:50,520 Now, that kind of vision 197 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:54,880 that you find so strikingly in the prophets through time 198 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:59,920 really comes to full flower in the Christian understanding 199 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:05,400 in the last book of the Christian Bible, and that is the Book of Revelation. 200 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,800 Or as we know it 201 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,280 sometimes, the Apocalypse, 202 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:15,200 which simply means the unveiling. 203 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,080 This again was a text written 204 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:21,840 for a people under pressure and suffering persecution. 205 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,760 So, it was a dark and tough time. 206 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:29,200 So, it's a vision of glory, not unlike what we found in the prophets. 207 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:33,320 A vision of glory in a very inglorious moment. 208 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:38,040 So, it's high vision for low morale, as it were. 209 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:43,200 Because this was the persecution that was suffered, under the Roman Empire. 210 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:47,760 Almost certainly the Book of Revelation speaks about the situation in Rome, 211 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:52,120 towards the end of the first century of the Common Era. 212 00:13:52,120 --> 00:14:02,200 So, the author of the Book of Revelation. 213 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:09,520 Has this extraordinary vision really, of the New Jerusalem. 214 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,960 And this is what he says, 215 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,600 I saw the Holy City. 216 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,560 So, it's a prophetic vision. 217 00:14:18,560 --> 00:14:22,560 The New Jerusalem is our phrase. 218 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:26,800 The New Jerusalem coming down out of heaven from God. 219 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,440 So, it's all God's work. 220 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:34,240 Prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 221 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,080 This is drawing upon the great nuptial imagery 222 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:41,440 of the Old Testament, God and his people. 223 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:45,400 Imagined as a marriage, 224 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:49,800 which itself is extraordinary the more you think about it. 225 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:54,000 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, 226 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,640 here is the dwelling place 227 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,880 of God with human beings. 228 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:03,240 So here again, it's the presence of God. 229 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:09,000 I will be the glory within. 230 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:10,640 God will dwell with them, 231 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:15,280 and they shall be His people, and God Himself will be with them. 232 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,160 And this is the vision of the New Jerusalem. 233 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,840 He will wipe away every tear from their eyes. 234 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:24,200 And this in a city that was drowning in tears, and it still is. 235 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:28,120 And death shall be no more, a city full of death. 236 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:32,880 Neither shall there be mourning or crying or pain anymore. 237 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:39,120 For the former things have passed away. 238 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,280 He goes on, 239 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,680 I saw no temple in the city. 240 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:49,440 Now this is crucial, because the temple was the very heart, 241 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:53,840 and as it were, the raison d'etre of Jerusalem in the Old Testament, 242 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:57,000 you couldn't imagine the city without the temple. 243 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:02,440 And here, in this vision, this Christian vision of the New Jerusalem, 244 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:06,640 you have the seer, the prophet, 245 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,840 saying, I saw no temple in the city. 246 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,680 Why? 247 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:17,040 For its temple is the Lord God Almighty 248 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,880 and the lamb. 249 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:22,320 Now in the Gospel of John, 250 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:29,120 we saw that the body of the crucified Christ 251 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,320 becomes the new temple. 252 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,920 This is the crucial shift. 253 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,200 The temple is no longer a building. 254 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,880 It is the body of the crucified Christ. 255 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:47,160 The crucified Christ whose side is pierced with a lance, a spear, 256 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:51,360 and from the side of his body there flows forth 257 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,640 the stream of blood and water. 258 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,520 Now this looks back 259 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:02,040 to the vision of Ezekiel in chapter 47, part of those chapters 260 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:07,480 at the end of the book of Ezekiel, the talk about the new temple. 261 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:11,800 Where in chapter 47, the prophet is taken to Jerusalem, 262 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:15,920 and he sees that trickle of water flowing from the side of the temple. 263 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,000 It becomes a stream, then it becomes a mighty river 264 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:24,600 flowing east down through the Kidron Valley, up over the Mount of Olives, 265 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,080 and down through the Judean Desert until it hits the Dead Sea. 266 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:32,240 And wherever this river goes, the prophet says, death is turned to life. 267 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:36,480 There are flowers and trees, and the Dead Sea is full of fish. 268 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:41,000 So, death becomes life. 269 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,080 Now, John, 270 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,720 with his vision on Calvary, a different mountain. 271 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,360 He sees another stream. 272 00:17:49,360 --> 00:17:52,520 Now not just water, but blood and water. 273 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,280 The life blood of Jesus. 274 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:59,520 Flowing from the side of Jesus, which is the new temple. 275 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:04,520 And the understanding is, and the vision is, that that stream flowing from the side 276 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:08,800 of the new temple, which is his body hanging on the cross, unbelievably. 277 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:12,720 This is the epicentre of the divine presence and glory. 278 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:14,720 That from the side of that temple 279 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,960 there flows out a stream into all the deserts of the cosmos, 280 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,400 even the cosmic desert of death, 281 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,920 and turns death to life. 282 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,160 That's the whole meaning of his vision. 283 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:30,880 So that's why there is no temple in the city, there's no building you can see. 284 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:34,480 And so, this is where God has chosen to dwell. 285 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:38,760 Now you look at Jesus, you have a vision of the lamb. 286 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:39,960 And you see God. 287 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:43,160 You say, that's where God has chosen to be. 288 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,760 That's where God has chosen to pitch a tent among us. 289 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:48,800 He is God with us, 290 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:53,840 and from His side there flows the life-giving stream. 291 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:55,800 The seer in revelation then goes on, 292 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,600 the city has no need of sun or moon to shine upon it, 293 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:05,480 for the glory of God is its light, and its lamp is the lamb. 294 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:09,000 No need for sun and moon, because the lamb, 295 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:16,040 the new temple, is the shining light that nothing can dispel. 296 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:17,760 So, a source of light 297 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:21,160 that is not purely physical. 298 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:22,440 It is the light of God. 299 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:27,360 And this looks back to the very beginning in the book of Genesis, where we are told 300 00:19:27,360 --> 00:19:31,920 that God said, let there be light, and there was light. 301 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:33,800 But this is two or three days 302 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:39,000 before God creates the sun or moon and the stars, 303 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:40,440 the physical sources of light. 304 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,800 So, what the Bible is saying, 305 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,320 is that there is a light that comes before 306 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,520 and after the physical sources of light, 307 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,920 and this is the light which is the Word of God. 308 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,960 Your word is a lamp for my steps, 309 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,200 the psalmist says. 310 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:02,280 So, the lamb now is the light. 311 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,520 And the seer goes on, 312 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:09,160 by its light shall the nations walk. 313 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:13,120 And they won't walk in any other light, or any other light will be cosmetic. 314 00:20:13,120 --> 00:20:15,640 And the kings of the earth shall bring their glory into it, 315 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:21,040 and its gates shall never be shut by day, and there shall be no night there. 316 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:26,520 They shall bring into it the glory and the honour of the nations. 317 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,280 Then he showed me the river of the water of life. 318 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:34,040 This again takes us back to Paradise, the book of Genesis. 319 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:38,920 Bright as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the lamb 320 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,920 through the middle of the street of the city 321 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,520 and on either side of the river. 322 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:47,400 This is straight from Ezekiel chapter 47. 323 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:52,800 The Tree of Life, with its twelve kinds of fruit, yielding its fruit each month. 324 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:58,200 And the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. 325 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,080 And night shall be no more. 326 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,960 They need no light of lamp or sun. 327 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:07,920 For the Lord God will be their light, and they shall reign forever and ever. 328 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:14,640 It's hard to imagine a more splendid or glorious vision of where we are heading. 329 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,960 And it's all the more extraordinary and powerful, 330 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:23,120 given that this was addressed to a people under enormous pressure 331 00:21:23,120 --> 00:21:26,480 and suffering a persecution. 332 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,440 So again, 333 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:32,320 saying to them, in this dark moment, 334 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:36,760 don't lose sight of the vision of where we're heading. 335 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,040 Don't think that this is all there is. 336 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,800 Because we are heading towards this 337 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,200 New Jerusalem. 338 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:53,560 Now, what this means is that Jerusalem 339 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,440 becomes another way of talking about Paradise. 340 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,680 Because the whole of the Bible 341 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:04,560 is really a story of the human being's return to Paradise. 342 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,680 The biblical story begins 343 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:11,480 with the expulsion from Paradise. 344 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:17,720 And from Genesis chapter 4 until the very end of the Bible, 345 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:22,000 the story that is told is of a return to Paradise, which is our true home. 346 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,920 So, it's a story of homecoming. 347 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,480 And Jesus, when he rises from the dead, is the first one home. 348 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:33,320 Mary, when she's assumed into heaven, is the second one home to Paradise. 349 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:38,680 Now, Paradise in Genesis is imagined as a garden. 350 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:43,080 But now, and by the time we get to the end of the Book of Revelation, 351 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,480 it's no longer a garden, it's a city. 352 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,400 And that in itself is interesting. 353 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,520 Because 354 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,360 it mirrors what happened within Christianity. 355 00:22:54,360 --> 00:22:57,360 Christianity begins in rural Palestine, 356 00:22:57,360 --> 00:23:00,840 in the countryside, as it were, in the garden. 357 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,120 But eventually it moves and takes root 358 00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:06,280 in the great urban centres of the Mediterranean world. 359 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,360 Christianity very quickly becomes 360 00:23:09,360 --> 00:23:11,840 an urban phenomenon, 361 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:12,840 takes root in the cities. 362 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,840 So, Paul, for instance, in writing his letters, 363 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,280 isn't writing to people out in the countryside. 364 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:23,160 He's writing to people in the great urban centres of the Mediterranean world. 365 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,640 So, what you find, this shift in the Bible, 366 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,400 the Christian Bible, from a garden to a city, 367 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:34,560 in fact, tells the story of Christianity moving from rural Palestine to 368 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:38,800 the cities of the Mediterranean world. 369 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,800 So, we’ll rest it there for this particular podcast. 370 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:48,640 We will return from this vision of the end, 371 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,480 this eschatological sense of Jerusalem, 372 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:59,440 to Jerusalem in time and place, in the next and final podcast. 373 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:03,720 Because the story continues. 374 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:08,760 But in the midst of a story which in some ways is a tragic story, 375 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:14,000 there is still this grand vision of what Jerusalem 376 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,880 will be in the plan of God. 377 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:27,960 Thank you for listening to this episode of The Navel of the Earth: Jerusalem in time, theology and imagination. 378 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,920 A new episode is released weekly. 379 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:37,320 You can find more podcasts from the Archdiocese of Brisbane from most major podcast providers 380 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:41,840 or from our website: 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